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Wolverine

So I watched Wolverine today.  I thought it was decent.  I was entertained even though I was bullied into watching it at Robinsons which I despise due to 21-28 minutes of pre-movie garbage (and paying 140 baht when I can watch it at Central for 70 = no-good).  Maybe 4 minutes of that are previews.  And in the Thai subtitles at the end it says something like อย่าพุ่งไป…จะมีอะไรต่อ.  Don’t bother.  You can wait through 10 minutes of credits to see Wolverine drink 2 shots of booze in Japan.  Oooh.   Wish I had left with everyone else…

อย่าพุ่งไป = don’t run off (just yet)

พุ่ง is a surprisingly useful word that I didn’t really know until last year.  Perhaps I’ll do a whole post on it sometime if I remember (dubious).  Remind me!

This one shouldn’t be too tough.  Give it a try.  Really..just do it for 5 minutes.  I pulled it from movieseer.com which is occasionally useful for movie showtimes, but not always correct.  The Thai is almost always short and easy.  This is a good example… 

เอ็กซ์ เม็น กำเนิด วูลฟ์เวอรีน(X-Men Origins: Wolverine )

ในภาคกำเนิด วูลฟ์เวอรีนนี้ โลแกน/วูลฟ์เวแรน (ฮิวจ์ แจ๊คแมน) เป็นมนุษย์กลายพันธุ์ที่พยายามจะค้นหาความลับในอดีตของเขา ซึ่งเนื้อเรื่องจะเป็นเหตุการณ์ก่อน X-Men ภาคแรก เล่าเรื่องราวการไล่ล่าล้างแค้นจอมวายร้ายที่เป็นตัวการในการสังหารแฟนสาวของเขา โลแกนจะพาเราไปสู่ต้นกำเนิดและค้นหาความจริวที่เราไม่รู้มาก่อน โดยมุ่งไปข้างหน้าด้วยความกล้าหาญและเส้นทางใหม่

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Wolverine

เป็นมนุษย์กลายพันธุ์ is a mutant

ที่พยายาม that is trying to…

จะค้นหาความลับ find out a secret

ในอดีตของเขา from his histroy

ซึ่งเนื้อเรื่อง so the plot of the story ..

จะเป็นเหตุการณ์ is the situation/cause

ก่อน X-Men ภาคแรก before the first X-Men movie

Fun with News

Useful Link of the day – http://nonsaat.udonthani.police.go.th/rang.htm

It lists all the Thai police rankings.  

I was doing some translations this morning and here are some interesting sentences.

สภาพศพที่ใบหน้าเน่ามีหนอนไต่ยั้วเยี้ย – the corpse’s face was covered with squirming maggots

ส่งกลิ่นเหม็นคละคลุ้ง – let off a terrible stench

ตำรวจตรวจสอบในที่เกิดเหตุไม่พบร่องรอยการต่อสู้ the investigating police saw no sign of a struggle

Stages of Learning

In my experience, there are 3 stages involved in going from the point where you sort of understand to being able to use something in a language.  You don’t have as much control as you might think and schools and teachers usually have even less.

We could analyze this stuff much deeper, but I find this to be the easy way to break it down.  We progress through these stages by encountering these words/expressions/sentences in real life (read/heard/tried to use).  Spaced repitition will significantly increase the chance of the words in question staying in your short term memory indefinitely so that when you encounter a situation where it is used…you can remember/use/understand it.

  1. Able to understand the underlying meaning of the question and possibly able to offer a simple answer such as in the case of กินข้าวรึยัง – กินแล้ว  or “have you eaten yet?” — “ate already” but unable to reproduce the original question or even work out for certain the words involved. It is still just a string of sounds which one can’t distinguish between or repeat with any accuracy, but somehow by having heard it over and over, you know what they are asking you.
  2. Able to understand the entire meaning and can now pick up most of the words in the sentence and answer properly, but still unlikely to be able to produce the actual question correctly.
  3. After having heard the sentence countless times, with varied repetition, we reach a stage where we can completely understand the question in most if not all of its forms and can now reproduce it naturally (or close to it) as we have heard it used naturally repeatedly for some time now.

Low Class Consonants

There are 24 low class consonants in Thai.  This is the largest group of letters.  This post will just cover some of the more common ones.  It is assumed you are familiar with the vowels covered in previous alphabet-related posts.  These vowels are  – อา อิ อี  เอ เอา ไอ ใอ ออ  อุ  อู

If you’d like to learn the entire Thai script, check out my 4 course online program, the Learn Thai Inner Circle.  The program has audio for all Thai , flashcards and much more detailed explanations than this old post.

If it isn’t already obvious, the best way to go about this is to memorize the 2 other groups of letters (high and mid) so that when you encounter a letter that you know isn’t high or mid, you know its low.  With a bit of time spent trying to read, it will all become second nature and you will no longer need to think in terms of high, mid or low.

As I mentioned above, there are 24 letters in the low class.  Today we are just going to cover 14 of them.   As usual, I strongly recommend learning the alphabet ASAP as it is very difficult to separate sounds within a language while you are associating the sounds with your native alphabet/syllabary.  So learn the damn alphabet already.  It’s easy.   If you are going to be in Chiang Mai (or Bangkok if I happen to be there) and need help, I can pound the bulk of the alphabet into your head in 6-8 nearly painless hours and help you start reading (fun easy stuff) so it stays put.

ค ง ช ซ ท น พ ฟ ภ ม ย ร ล ว

(คอ ควาย) is very much like the ‘k’ in English.  You should note that the only difference (in appearance) between this letter and ด (ดอ เด็ก) is the circle placement.

Mnemonic – The line in the middle is an arm.  The circle is a fist holding a dagger.  If you are trying to kill someone the blade of the dagger is coming out the bottom of your hand while you stab them you might shout “I’m gonna kill ya!” in order to remember the ‘k’ sound — ค

If you are holding the dagger the other way (blade up) you are more likely to be ‘defending yourself.’ — ด

ง  (งอ งู) is like the ‘ng’ in singing, but in Thai it can be the first sound in a word.  The letter is called snake and it looks like one.  Or it looks like a lower-case ‘g’, whatever works for ya.  I’d go with a snake that makes งงงงง  sounds rather than hiss instead.

(ชอ ช้าง) This one is like a ‘ch.’ The name of the letter ‘ช้าง’ (chaang + high tone) means elephant so you might consider the last line which heads off to the top right being the elephant’s trunk.

(ซอ โซ่) This is the only ‘s’ sound that is low class (the rest are high).  โซ่ means chain and has a nick in the tail of the elephant, so lets imagine a chain wrapped around the poor creature’s tail.  It helps to create a mental image.

*This letter is the only ‘s’ sound that can be any tone (high class consonants leading a word restrict the word to rising, falling or low)

(ทอ ทหาร) is just like a ‘t’ and the letter’s name means soldier.  Maybe this soldier is holding one fist (the circle) high in some sort of salute….

(นอ หนู) – ‘n’  the name of the letter is ‘mouse’ or ‘rat.’  This letter looks a lot like an ‘N’ to me.  The connecting line in the English letter is mousing its way along the floor only to scamper up the other side.

(พอ พาน) like a ‘p,’ and the name of the letter is a type of tray or dish that has a pedestal base.  Let’s just think of it as pedestal-ed plate (จาน) with a big P on it.

(ฟอ ฟัน) like an ‘f,’ and the name means ‘tooth.’

(ภอ สำเภา) – ‘p’ – type of boat (junk).

(มอ ม้า) ‘m’ – horse

(ยอ ยักษ์) ‘y’ – ‘giant’ *often used as a semi-vowel

(รอ เรือ) – ‘r’ (often pronounced as ‘l’ or half-ass’d ‘r’ *correct pronunciation involves a trill, but this is almost always dropped in colloquial speech)  – boat (any kind)

(ลอ ลิง) ‘l’ – monkey *monkey down on all 4’s with unusually long tail extending high over its head

(วอ แหวน) ‘w’ – a ring *Mnemonic – here someone has presented you with a very odd ring – its far too small to fit on your finger (the circle) and it has a long curved claw jutting out of the top.  Maybe if you just hung the claw over your finger… 

 

Another Vid – Mostly English

This is the 2nd vid I did like this.  The first one is coming soon.   Let me know if you want more stuff like this.  I did it because of some requests on my youtube channel a while back.

Also, I’m probably going to Bangkok for a few days at the end of this month if anybody wants to meet up and/or get a lesson I should have some free time.

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