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Thai Reading Practice

Update 2018: I’ve created a few Thai reading exercises.  They are all quite easy and I’ve marked much of the vocabulary as well as broken down many of the sentences.

    • One of the most frustrating things (primarily because of how time consuming it is) I experience as both a teacher and a learner is finding bodies of text that are somewhat related and contain crossover words and phrases.  Back in my early days in Thailand when I was teaching private English lessons I would buy a bunch of those Penguin Readers and force my students to choose whichever one looked interesting to them and read it on the days between lessons.  Then they’d have to come back and tell me what it was about.  If their English was still on the low end I would tell them what it was about in different words over and over again while asking them questions to keep them involved and confirm that they were actually trying to read the book.  While the majority of these students faded out after a while,  a few of them actually put in some effort and improved dramatically in a short time.  It was just a matter of gradually letting them build up the vocabulary and arguably more importantly, the confidence to talk about something in the target language.  When they didn’t know a word, I’d just tell them to use one from their language and then I’d note down what words they didn’t know so I could pummel the learner with them over and over in future lessons if they were important for telling that particular story.  If they started to get bored or frustrated with a book we’d start a new one,  but we would always come back to the previous one as the review/repetition increases the chance of retention.  I’d spend a few minutes during each lesson asking them to tell me the story of The Murders in the Rue Morgue or whatever stories we had already read.This significantly reinforced the whole process because I didn’t give them the opportunity to completely forget anything.  Many people do not have the slightest amount of discipline for doing flashcards so I would just sit and do the cards with them.  This allows me to to have them read it or turn the screen away so I can turn a card into a production card (where the learner is producing something as opposed to just reading/understanding) on the spot to check if they truly know it or are just able to recognize it.  Admittedly this is a pricey way to do flashcards (as I’m being paid for my time), but people tend to work harder when people are watching them.  I can’t stress enough how well this stuff works.  This is of course affected by how much effort the student and the teacher put into it.It’s be pretty awesome if Penguin translated some of these books into other languages so more people could benefit.  Me for example.The other day I read 3 headlines in the Thai wiki that were perfect for this post.  Enjoy.
      เกิดเหตุมือปืนบุกยิงในห้างสรรพสินค้าแห่งหนึ่งในอัลเฟน อาน เดน ริจน์ประเทศเนเธอร์แลนด์ ทำให้มีผู้เสียชีวิตหกคน รวมทั้งผู้ก่อการ
      • เกิดเหตุ – [เกิด เห็ด] to happen; to occur
      • มือปืน – gunman; gunslinger (lit. hand+ gun)
      • ห้างสรรพสินค้า [ห้าง สัพ สิน ค้า]- mall; shopping center (usually just use ห้าง)
      • แห่ง – classifier for places
      • ทำให้ – to cause
      • มีผู้เสียชีวิต – there were deaths #  (lit – had people die)
      • เสียชีวิต – to die
      • รวมทั้ง – including
      • ผู้ก่อการ – perpetrator; instigator (lit. person build การ)

      มีผู้เสียชีวิตอย่างน้อย 11 คน และได้รับบาดเจ็บอีกอย่างน้อย 20 คน หลังมีผู้บุกยิงเด็กในโรงเรียนแห่งหนึ่งในรีโอเดจาเนโร บราซิล

      เกิดเหตุระเบิดรถไฟฟ้าใต้ดินในมินสก์ ประเทศเบลารุส ซึ่งทำให้มีผู้เสียชีวิตอย่างน้อย 12 คน และได้รับบาดเจ็บอีกอย่างน้อย 200 คน

      ระเบิด – bomb; explosion
      รถไฟฟ้า – train (lit. vehicle+electric)
      ใต้ดิน – underground
      รถไฟฟ้าใต้ดิน – sub
      ซึ่ง – which; that

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Where to Start?

I often feel that the greatest weakness of the blog format is that old content tends to be forgotten and needs to be repeated. Regular readers rarely access old materials for whatever reason.  I am not much different.  On sites in my rss feeds, there are a handful of posts that contain information that I want to go back to and I will usually email them to myself, but aside from that I only go back to most sites when there is new content to read.  While I hope to continue creating good content, I feel that I’m nearly always asked the same questions.  People learning their first 2nd language tend to ask the same questions.  They don’t really know what to do and simply telling them isn’t enough for them to believe it and find the discipline to actually do it.  I completely understand this as I often feel that I spread myself far too thin by always dabbling in a too many languages and could always be spending more time than I actually do.  So in order to streamline the process for newer readers, I’m going to provide links below to older posts that should anticipate and hopefully answer some of those questions that come up while you are climbing the language mountain.

Sometimes people seem to want me to tell them exactly what to do.  I then expend a lot of time and energy creating routines and flashcards for them, but then they don’t do it.  While this can be frustrating, it doesn’t really matter as long as you are doing something.  Chances are there will always be ways to improve on what you are currently doing so it doesn’t hurt to experiment.  If one way up the mountain seems impassable, go back down and find another way.  Master the basics, don’t fly through them.  Don’t just learn them.  Absorb them, conquer them.  Be able to run circles around the bottom of the mountain with ease before trying to make it all the way to the top.  This isn’t a race.

Don’t let anyone discourage you.  They will try.  This is normal as people tend to be pretty lame and rarely actually know what they are talking about.

Basic Tips/Concepts

The Rules of the Game

Be a Cheater

Consistency

Don’t Stop

Remembering Stuff

Spaced Repetition System

Stages of Learning

Thai Tips

Rhythm

De-Farang-ify

Tools to Get You There –

Tone Drills by Class

Anki – So ya don’t forget

Reading Stuff –

How to Start

News

SRS Tweakage

While I was in Korea I started doing something a little bit different and it seems to be working really well.  First, I take a piece of audio.  Usually from a short conversation from a podcast or whatever.  Than I put the whole clip on the front of an Anki card.  I put the text on the other side.  No English, so it’s stuff I kinda know, but might not catch because I’ve never really heard anybody say it before.  Then I break the clip into a bunch of pieces.  Usually an entire sentence, sometimes more if the context calls for it.  I make cards for all the individual pieces.  Then I take all the little audio clips and I throw them on my ipod and I loop it.  If a sentence pops up that I don’t really understand, I make a note to pay more attention to the card next time I see it.  This almost never happens though.  I kinda get the gist of it when making all the audio clips and typing up the conversation.  Then the repeated audio makes sure I can’t forget it.  After the audio has been floating around in my head for a while – the sentences just pop up in my head and I can say them.

Be a Cheater

Language learning shouldn’t be a competition and you shouldn’t be graded on the rate at which you progress based on someone else’s program or book.  There are no levels in life.  Words like beginner and advanced are relative.

Learning a language isn’t (rather it shouldn’t be) difficult.  It doesn’t take a genius to speak a language.  You can go outside and hear stupid people talk everywhere you go.  A very common problem which stops most people from getting good at something are the preconceived notions about how things are.  You say it’s hard because you’ve heard people say a language is difficult to learn, but you’ve never even tried.
People say silly stuff all the time like
  • Ooh, you must have a special gift because you are good at _________
  • I’m too old/young to start doing that…..
  • I can’t learn tonal languages because I’m tone deaf
  • I like chocolate
  • Oi, that is a really hard language because blahblahblah
  • I can’t read/watch/listen to that because it’s too hard

The bottom line is you can learn to do anything you want.  It takes time and loads of practice and even more than that it takes discipline and dedication.  There is no secret method or hack that is going to make you a master of something overnight.  It’s just like exercise or playing a musical instrument you gotta keep going.  There is no end.

Cheat.  It doesn’t matter what you do to get there.  You don’t have to read those boring ass Manee books.  Read stuff that you like. Watch movies or tv shows that you like.  If you don’t know what’s good then ask someone else for recommendations.  If you hate Thai movies, then watch Western movies dubbed in Thai (or whatever language).  Keep plugging away.  If you don’t dig it then toss it and find something else.   Just don’t stop and do it every day.  You’ll get better.  I promise.

You will never understand tv/movies/news if you never watch them.

You will never be able to read a book if you don’t actually ever try and read one.

Here’s how to learn Thai or any language:

  1. Learn the Thai script and sounds
  2. When you are comfortable with the sounds, start drilling short high frequency sentences (ไปไหน, กินข้าวรึยัง, ทำอะไรอยู่)
  3. Once you have about 20 or 30 short sentences in your head, start trying to use them on people.  You may want to start practicing short dialogues at this stage.
  4. When you get to a point where you can handle 50-100 short sentences and you know around 500-1000 words, you should start spending a little bit of your study time attempting to read.  Try to find interesting content.  This could be attempting to read the first (or random) sentence in a Thai wikipedia article on a topic you are interested in every day.  It will be really hard at first, but if you do it every day for a month, you will learn so many new words and before you know it, you’ll be reading 1 paragraph per day.

The Linguist

Steve of Lingq did a post in response to a comment from one of my current students.  Check it out!

http://thelinguist.blogs.com/how_to_learn_english_and/2010/05/native-speaker-teachers-or-non-native-speaker-teachers-or-independence.html